tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588905705506605875.post934487258385590340..comments2024-03-15T09:07:15.798-07:00Comments on NICK'S CATHOLIC BLOG: Eternally Forgiven? - More problems with Penal SubstitutionNickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01453168437883536663noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588905705506605875.post-30987046335499685762012-03-14T07:10:16.902-07:002012-03-14T07:10:16.902-07:00"Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a prop..."Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be RECEIVED by faith." (Rom 3:24f.) <br /><br />"On no condition is sin a passing phase, but we are justified daily by the unmerited forgiveness of sins and by the justification of God’s mercy." (Martin Luther) <br /><br />"Therefore we must have this blessedness not once only, but must hold it fast during our whole lives." (John Calvin)T.C. https://www.blogger.com/profile/15762796770903354165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588905705506605875.post-44816041452436493922010-05-23T20:28:03.683-07:002010-05-23T20:28:03.683-07:00I'm not catholic....and I would say that a lif...I'm not catholic....and I would say that a life of "any" Christian is one of continued confession and repentance. Not sure how you lumped us all together.Ikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09595879576794400791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588905705506605875.post-75714610904122312332010-05-09T12:18:10.961-07:002010-05-09T12:18:10.961-07:00Again, you hit it right on the mark and yet again ...Again, you hit it right on the mark and yet again I was reminded of the the old saying, "At the heart of a heresy there lies a contradiction".<br /><br />If Christ is supposed to suffer the punishment that we all ought to have suffered on account of sin, simply dying certainly wouldn't cut it, the PUNISHMENT of sin IS eternal separation from God - now, the problem exist because one can't separate the 3-Persons in a Godhead which otherwise is absurd.The Persons of the Godhead are certainly inseparable, so right away we could see the incoherence of Penal Substitution.<br /><br />This theory (PS) will lead only to two places - one is universalism, where everybody is saved regardless, the other one is double predestination by one protestant camp, John Calvin that Christ accepted the punishment only for the elect and therefore God can still punish the damned (this does still leave the elect free to sin without fear).<br /><br /><br />St. Anselm, ora pro nobis!Jaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08949794711507726903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588905705506605875.post-60450276408435574692010-05-09T10:29:52.850-07:002010-05-09T10:29:52.850-07:00Thank you.
I'm actually planning a "Pro...Thank you. <br /><br />I'm actually planning a "Problems with Penal Substitution" series in which I will devote a few 1-2 page posts addressing various problematic points for those who embrace that abominable doctrine.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01453168437883536663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588905705506605875.post-20970129360005836622010-05-08T08:37:31.090-07:002010-05-08T08:37:31.090-07:00Excellent post, Nick. It shines a needed light on ...Excellent post, Nick. It shines a needed light on yet another bit of incoherence in Protestantism. Thank you.<br /><br />RdPFred Noltiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10203885485191808284noreply@blogger.com