tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588905705506605875.post2341251478293386589..comments2024-03-15T09:07:15.798-07:00Comments on NICK'S CATHOLIC BLOG: Examples of Individuals Losing Salvation in ScriptureNickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01453168437883536663noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588905705506605875.post-59427845802123941622015-09-17T04:33:21.038-07:002015-09-17T04:33:21.038-07:00Don't lump all protestants in the OSAS camp. I...Don't lump all protestants in the OSAS camp. I'm definitely a protestant and definitely opposed to "OSAS" or "Once Saved, Always Saved", "Unconditional" Eternal Security or "Perseverance of the Saints". You can put most calvinists in there, there but there are a large majority of protestants that fight vigorously the concept of OSAS. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588905705506605875.post-77199232747509379542012-03-29T09:57:10.554-07:002012-03-29T09:57:10.554-07:00Would you mind interacting with some arguments? Si...Would you mind interacting with some arguments? Simply telling me I'm wrong does nothing for anyone. Am I supposed to fold up shop and convert to Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons simply because they post "Catholics are wrong, join us"?Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01453168437883536663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588905705506605875.post-52832284930189112042012-03-29T03:01:59.378-07:002012-03-29T03:01:59.378-07:00I grew up in a protestant church and only have bee...I grew up in a protestant church and only have been exposed to OSAS from those in the Baptist denomination. I now am a follower of the Way and find all demominations wrong including the Catholic faith. Nothing supercedes the scriptures. All denominations claim to have the true path but all have different beliefs. WE ALL HAVE INHERITED LIES. Thats scripture WE ALL HAVE BEEN DECEIVED. There is only one truth and one way. Denominations have different beliefs which are man made. Many are called but few are chosen. Kind of choppy but trying to keep it short so as not to lose the casual reader. Peace out...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588905705506605875.post-23109845422080462902011-10-13T10:26:15.759-07:002011-10-13T10:26:15.759-07:00John,
In the OT times, being struck with an illn...John, <br /><br />In the OT times, being struck with an illness like that was a sign of God's disfavor, which surely would have been reversed had there been repentance. Instead, we see he remained in this state till the end. He was not "simply" banned from the Temple, he was under God's displeasure. This also contradicts the notion good works are guaranteedNickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01453168437883536663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588905705506605875.post-52563406104901938852011-10-12T10:10:08.881-07:002011-10-12T10:10:08.881-07:00Nick
Re, Uzziah you are on a creaky wicket, the p...Nick<br /><br />Re, Uzziah you are on a creaky wicket, the point being made is simply that being leprous he was banned from the temple. It is not a comment on his eternal state.John Thomsonhttp://johngreenview.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588905705506605875.post-76072460008069925102011-08-12T16:41:34.388-07:002011-08-12T16:41:34.388-07:00Thanks Josh. I fixed it.Thanks Josh. I fixed it.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01453168437883536663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588905705506605875.post-88711113305307511372011-08-03T15:40:00.543-07:002011-08-03T15:40:00.543-07:00I think you mean 'Magus' (magical) and not...I think you mean 'Magus' (magical) and not 'Magnus'(great). Thanks for the post.Josh McManawayhttp://www.sonofthefathers.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588905705506605875.post-5551123270281153402011-07-29T04:43:06.902-07:002011-07-29T04:43:06.902-07:00Ananias and Sapphira
Could be a case of fake fait...Ananias and Sapphira<br /><br />Could be a case of fake faith. Could be a case of saving faith. Nowhere in Acts 5 does it say that Ananias and Sapphira went to hell after receiving the punishment of death. Come on, you Catholic? What about purgatory?! "If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire." (1 Corinthians 3:15) :-)<br /><br />Simon Magus <br /><br />Same thing as with Peter. If he was one of the elect, he repented. If not, not. But I think there is hope: "And Simon answered, 'Pray for me to the Lord, that nothing of what you have said may come upon me.'" (Acts 8:24) After all it was the Council of Trent (Can. VIII) that said: "If any one saith, that the fear of hell - whereby, by grieving for our sins, we flee unto the mercy of God, or refrain from sinning - is a sin, or makes sinners worse; let him be anathema." <br /><br />Demas <br /><br />We simply don't know what happend to him in the end. If he was one of the elect, he repented. If not, not. What about 1 Corinthians 5:5: "You are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord." A temporal fall does not necessarily exclude from eventual salvation. <br /><br />The seven CONGREGATIONS of Revelation <br /><br />See what I'm up to? It's about the fate of entire congregations, not the salvation of individuals. Where individual's salvation is concerned there also is a call to repentance. Guess what? The elect answered the call! For in the very end it's God who grants repentance: "And they glorified God, saying, 'Then to the Gentiles also God has granted repentance that leads to life.'" (Acts 11:18) -- or not: "But they would not listen to the voice of their father, for it was the will of the Lord to put them to death." (1 Samuel 2:25) "Grant what thou commandest, and command what thou dost desire." (St. Augustine)<br /><br />ThxT.C. https://www.blogger.com/profile/15762796770903354165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588905705506605875.post-55424617500023766942011-07-29T04:42:02.799-07:002011-07-29T04:42:02.799-07:00"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and..."My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand." (John 10:27-28)<br /><br />1. <br /><br />The doctrine of perseverance does not state that believers never struggle, grow cold or even fall. It says that God in his grace lifts them up again and thus saves them eventually. <br /><br />2. <br /><br />There is a possibility of dead faith (cf. James 2:17), insufficient faith or the mere appearance of faith (cf. Mark 4). And it has nothing to do with 'pretending' - at least not always. Such people often think that they have saving faith. That's why Paul exhorts us: "Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you fail to meet the test!" (2 Corinthians 13:5) If we meet the test, we are in the faith and Jesus Christ lives in us. People who fall away forever proof that Jesus Christ never lived within them. "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us." (1 John 2:19) <br /><br />Peter <br /><br />“Simon, Simon, behold, Satan demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat, 32 but I have prayed for you that your FAITH may not fail. And when you have turned again, strengthen your brothers.” Peter fell, but -- as you said -- God graciously granted him to repent. That’s why the first of Luther’s 95 Theses was: “When our Lord and Master Jesus Christ said, ‘Repent,’ He willed the whole Christian life to be repentance.”<br /><br />Judas Iscariot <br /><br />"Jesus answered them, 'Did I not choose you, the Twelve? And yet one of you is a devil.'" (John 6:70) It's about choosing them as Apostles. Not necessarily for eternal life. Jesus knew that one was a devil, even before the betrayal of Judas. Yet he chose him anyway. Didn't he know the moment he chose him? Obviously he chose him as an Apostle for some purpose. Hm, what could that be? That the scriptures might be fulfilled (cf. John 17:12). By the way, would you say that there has never been an unconverted bishop, priest, deacon or minister of some kind throughout the entire history of the Church?T.C. https://www.blogger.com/profile/15762796770903354165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588905705506605875.post-18567321538769484482011-06-26T15:59:25.031-07:002011-06-26T15:59:25.031-07:00Thanks for these, Nick.
I always found it curious...Thanks for these, Nick.<br /><br />I always found it curious that if good works and living an acceptable Christian life naturally flow out of faith why so much ink wasted in scripture on instructing those with faith that good works are needed and warning them not to fall into sin.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04653644792930523119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588905705506605875.post-27103947186450002862011-06-26T15:58:02.055-07:002011-06-26T15:58:02.055-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04653644792930523119noreply@blogger.com